Fairportfan: You conveniently have avoided the obvious differentiators: Israel condemned the “Stern Gang” attack and prosecuted; the PA and its cronies CELEBRATE ALL JEWISH DEATH! Please tell me how you find that equal?
Anyone can find a “Stern Gang” with enough effort. But if the effort stops at the finding and does not follow through to a truthful analysis then one is engaging in an exercise of lying with statistics. Citing that one example as it if demonstrates that Israel engages in a policy of terror (while suggesting it was at the behest of the Israeli government) is a prime example of how its detractors are content with finding excuses for fault at all costs.
You still have not explained how you can call the act of a solitary deranged group the same as the “state” sponsored terrorism of Hamas, Syria, Lebanon, Iran, etc.
omQ R: Come on! You answer my charge of immoral equivalency by venting more of the same? Sigh.
M Henri Day: You are buying into the historical revisionism that is rampant in the Arab world. Israel accepted the 1917 Balfour Partition Plan and would have lived in peace with its neighbors even though that plan gave the vast majority of what was supposed to be Israel to a newly invented nation of Trans-Jordan. Israel reluctantly declared their acceptance but the Arab League met and announced their Three Nos Declaration: “No recognition, no peace and no negotiations.” They trumpeted their steadfast dedication to the eradication of Israel and all Jews within their sights.
They and you ignore the fact that Jews purchased land from Arabs for decades before the 1947 UN Partition Plan - which was illegally seized and declared Palestinian land. There are valid bills of sale that clearly demonstrate the purchases. Pawns of the Arab League say the land was in their family and that trumps the bills of sale. If that is what you choose to believe there is nothing to be done for you - you choose ignorance, wallow in it, and extol your “virtues” for having done so. As Ron White said, “you can’t fix stupid.” You are unfixable.
You claim that Israel “occupies” land as if the cabinet awoke one morning and decided to go take some land. You fail to recognize that Israel was attacked. Was was declared upon it. International law is quite clear that land taken in a defensive war may be kept. The UN stands behind that rule of war - unless the attacked nation that was victorious in its defense was Israel. Then the rules are thrown out and war won land is declared “occupied” and “oppressed.”
If Israel is such an oppressive nation then why is it the Israeli Arabs flatly refuse to surrender their Israeli citizenship? Why do they consistently state they are treated better by Israel than they ever were or expect to be by a Palestinian Authority or state? Why do they all refuse to accept any effort by the PA or Hamas to “transfer” their citizenship out of Israel? The reason is they know there will be no state, only a base of terror operations. Why do you fail to recognize that?
Fairportfan: You conveniently have avoided the obvious differentiators: Israel condemned the “Stern Gang” attack and prosecuted; the PA and its cronies CELEBRATE ALL JEWISH DEATH! Please tell me how you find that equal?
Anyone can find a “Stern Gang” with enough effort. But if the effort stops at the finding and does not follow through to a truthful analysis then one is engaging in an exercise of lying with statistics. Citing that one example as it if demonstrates that Israel engages in a policy of terror (while suggesting it was at the behest of the Israeli government) is a prime example of how its detractors are content with finding excuses for fault at all costs.
You still have not explained how you can call the act of a solitary deranged group the same as the “state” sponsored terrorism of Hamas, Syria, Lebanon, Iran, etc.
omQ R: Come on! You answer my charge of immoral equivalency by venting more of the same? Sigh.
M Henri Day: You are buying into the historical revisionism that is rampant in the Arab world. Israel accepted the 1917 Balfour Partition Plan and would have lived in peace with its neighbors even though that plan gave the vast majority of what was supposed to be Israel to a newly invented nation of Trans-Jordan. Israel reluctantly declared their acceptance but the Arab League met and announced their Three Nos Declaration: “No recognition, no peace and no negotiations.” They trumpeted their steadfast dedication to the eradication of Israel and all Jews within their sights.
They and you ignore the fact that Jews purchased land from Arabs for decades before the 1947 UN Partition Plan - which was illegally seized and declared Palestinian land. There are valid bills of sale that clearly demonstrate the purchases. Pawns of the Arab League say the land was in their family and that trumps the bills of sale. If that is what you choose to believe there is nothing to be done for you - you choose ignorance, wallow in it, and extol your “virtues” for having done so. As Ron White said, “you can’t fix stupid.” You are unfixable.
You claim that Israel “occupies” land as if the cabinet awoke one morning and decided to go take some land. You fail to recognize that Israel was attacked. Was was declared upon it. International law is quite clear that land taken in a defensive war may be kept. The UN stands behind that rule of war - unless the attacked nation that was victorious in its defense was Israel. Then the rules are thrown out and war won land is declared “occupied” and “oppressed.”
If Israel is such an oppressive nation then why is it the Israeli Arabs flatly refuse to surrender their Israeli citizenship? Why do they consistently state they are treated better by Israel than they ever were or expect to be by a Palestinian Authority or state? Why do they all refuse to accept any effort by the PA or Hamas to “transfer” their citizenship out of Israel? The reason is they know there will be no state, only a base of terror operations. Why do you fail to recognize that?