Gee I wonder if conservatives are able to create an argument without resorting to demagoguery either. Government may not produce anything but it is the price you pay for a polite society. And the way you pay for government is with taxes. They are then redistributed for things like roads, courthouses, police, education, fire departments, and everything in our federal, state, and local governments. Seriously, are conservatives looking for Anarchy or something? It’s like you want to pay no taxes, still have government services, and the complain about the government.
I do recall the Republicans arguing OFTEN in the past about how to “pay” for middle class tax cuts and now how to pay for unemployment benefits but there is absolutely now talk of how to “pay” for tax cuts for the rich. I guess they just pay for themselves.
And to be perfectly honest, NO you DON”T want the same opportunity everyone else has when they succeed. You want the privilege that being a white male has brought you since the birth of this country. Yeah, I said it. Everyone wants opportunity, some just have more by virtue of who they are. That’s a FACT and it’s not disputable, though it amazes me how many times white males try to do so.
What did the rich take away, Checked gas prices lately? That came first from the the fed putting money out so banks and institutions could lend and help the economy but did they? NO! These fat cats, instead of trickling it down, used the money to speculate on commodity futures, thus raising gas prices and taking money I could be using for something else out of my pocket while they pocketed the spike in oil prices. Which is now being exacerbate by the weak dollar. There a nice clear easy example but you won’t get it, so I’m not worried.
Paris may be a straw but doesn’t alter the facts that 1)she’s rich and 2) she didn’t earn it. So, sorry, as long as people are going to insist the rich “earn” it, which many do, you have to deal with the ones who don’t. And while many did earn it, even those like Bill Gates and Ted Turner, and the children of Henry Ford benefited from hand-me-down wealth. Hell, I’m working on being there someday so I can have such problems as worrying about a 2% tax change on my millions instead of my thousands.
And yes, bigotry/racism does exist when it comes to this stuff. I know you can’t or won’t see it but that doesn’t excuse the fact that it’s there. I could lay out 1000 examples but you’d never see them. Tim Wise points them out all the time and still people fail to understand his message.
In the end, none of this writing matters, I’ll no more change your mind than you will change mine. Or as someone famously put it “To the true believe no proof is necessary, to the skeptic no proof is enough.” We are all skeptics.
Gee I wonder if conservatives are able to create an argument without resorting to demagoguery either. Government may not produce anything but it is the price you pay for a polite society. And the way you pay for government is with taxes. They are then redistributed for things like roads, courthouses, police, education, fire departments, and everything in our federal, state, and local governments. Seriously, are conservatives looking for Anarchy or something? It’s like you want to pay no taxes, still have government services, and the complain about the government.
I do recall the Republicans arguing OFTEN in the past about how to “pay” for middle class tax cuts and now how to pay for unemployment benefits but there is absolutely now talk of how to “pay” for tax cuts for the rich. I guess they just pay for themselves.
And to be perfectly honest, NO you DON”T want the same opportunity everyone else has when they succeed. You want the privilege that being a white male has brought you since the birth of this country. Yeah, I said it. Everyone wants opportunity, some just have more by virtue of who they are. That’s a FACT and it’s not disputable, though it amazes me how many times white males try to do so.
What did the rich take away, Checked gas prices lately? That came first from the the fed putting money out so banks and institutions could lend and help the economy but did they? NO! These fat cats, instead of trickling it down, used the money to speculate on commodity futures, thus raising gas prices and taking money I could be using for something else out of my pocket while they pocketed the spike in oil prices. Which is now being exacerbate by the weak dollar. There a nice clear easy example but you won’t get it, so I’m not worried.
Paris may be a straw but doesn’t alter the facts that 1)she’s rich and 2) she didn’t earn it. So, sorry, as long as people are going to insist the rich “earn” it, which many do, you have to deal with the ones who don’t. And while many did earn it, even those like Bill Gates and Ted Turner, and the children of Henry Ford benefited from hand-me-down wealth. Hell, I’m working on being there someday so I can have such problems as worrying about a 2% tax change on my millions instead of my thousands.
And yes, bigotry/racism does exist when it comes to this stuff. I know you can’t or won’t see it but that doesn’t excuse the fact that it’s there. I could lay out 1000 examples but you’d never see them. Tim Wise points them out all the time and still people fail to understand his message.
In the end, none of this writing matters, I’ll no more change your mind than you will change mine. Or as someone famously put it “To the true believe no proof is necessary, to the skeptic no proof is enough.” We are all skeptics.
Have a nice day.