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aww Ox, sorry buddy but she’ll never see you, she cant see past her own Vanity, Tiff thought Kip would be good cause he looks good, aka “Arm Candy” but one can see he clearly isnt that bright or have a spine
Not this again! Despite the weight gain, Tiffany is still pretty, with a curvy figure. Ox is stubble-bald, paunchy and boring. He likes Tiffany because she’s pretty, and it probably doesn’t hurt that she’s rich and was a cheerleader when they were in high school. People would be impressed if Ox could date Tiffany, but they’d be shocked if she settled for him.
We seem to have missed some important interaction that I would have liked to see. But Stef’s intrusion and usurpation of a private conversation seems to have been rewarded. Kip’s brief opportunity to pursue his independence and open his eyes to new opportunities has been thwarted. He has, apparently, returned to his imprisonment under Stef’s emotional tyranny. But who knows? In another week, he might again see the same behavior that induced him to initiate the break last October 30-31. Maybe he needs repeated instances to get it through his thick skull that this is a toxic relationship that has dulled his senses. Meanwhile, G&K are teasing the readers with Ox’s longstanding crush on Tiff. But, really, there’s no relational impetus to kick him out of the “friend zone” into a romantic running field.
Another disappointment. Clearly, G&K can’t write an arc with a logical outcome. There is a contrived conflict with no real character development or resolution. Let’s get rid of Stef and Kip.
Just NO to all of this. These arcs are exhausting lol. How many times do we have to see Kip get a moment of sanity then poof. Not to mention the whole Tiff, Ox thing. Ox is a great guy but Ox’s crush on Tiff isn’t comparable to Tiff and Kip. All these arcs go nowhere lately. We need some excitement with follow through!
I predicted, at my peril, but I was 99% sure, that Kip and Steph were destined to get back together, they are drawn almost co-dependent. But the Ox(Ford) angle is a pleasant misdirection. I think it would be a great epiphany for Tiffany, and joy to Ox, good for both, but she has to grow, and he needs to make his feelings clear. By the way, too many here focus their opinions about a potential relstionship between a rich Tiff, a bit too chubby for them, who definitely, nevertheless, would not want a “fat” boring slub like Ox. Well, then they aren’t carefully understanding the true back story of Ox. “His” dad is also an successful attorney, who apparently is actually living with and fathering his family in Luannverse and not 8k miles away, in Japan; he is just shy, although panel 3 may presage a change. I hope so. We may see next week.
Reading through the comments, its obvious that the readers are polarized into two camps — those who think it would be just great if Tiff and Ox ended up together, and those of us who would be horrified which includes me. But I think that today’s development is another tease and misdirection. For years, Greg has been getting his mileage from the strip by having most characters forever trying but never making it. Brad and Toni are the only exceptions. I keep reading because I like some of the characters and the humor, but freely admit that I’ve been tired of all the cynicism for several years.
Calling it now: this is the end of this arc. We won’t see these two on Monday, but rather we’ll see a different character. The status quo remains firmly in place.
Are there ANY happy single couples besides Toni and Brad in this strip? We haven’t had even a happy pause, much less a happy ending since Bets and Gun first got together. GETTING TIRED HERE!
Tiffany has every right to be upset, but it’s a good thing this happened before she and Kip had gotten any further. She should just accept that Kip is a dumb guy who will never be free of Stef. I feel bad for Ox, but Tiffany has never shown signs of thinking of him as more than a friend.
Well played, Evans. We’ve been needing a revisiting of Ox-wants-Tiff. Look at the calendar. We’ve got ourselves a Valentine’s Day arc coming to your screen (or printed comics page) at full speed.
I guess we can’t hope for the Kip/Tiff pairing. Then we lose the drama. Nor the Ox/Tiff pairing. Nor the Bernice/Nil, nor the Luann/…um, the muscelhead guy that we met w Nil.I don’t think Tiff has changed as much as we think. Yes, she’s not as pre-occupied, not as snarky…no, she’s is, not AS petty, or mean, but she is still focused on beauty, and what she wants. But, ti’s the age. I was like that too then, still am to some degree at 53. But I recognize it and try to fight it. Jesus helps me, I recognize my weakness and my need for outside help only He can give.
from 32 years of teaching and observing student behavior I can say with some authority people make some very poor choices when it comes to intimate relationships
I’m glad Tiffany finally got the message, which is surprising because she is so dam dense. She was really out of line plotting and scheming to break up Kip and Stef. That she still thinks she was right is a perfect example of how self-centered she is. Maybe if she started paying attention and lost a few pounds her head wouldn’t be so fat (literally). And Ox – blech! no! Greg needs to do a makeover on that character.
Tiff is frustrated by Kip in the same way that Ox is with Tiff. Both are in the “friend zone” of the person they desire for boyfriend or girlfriend. Tiff doesn’t get it any more than Ox.
I do not view Kip’s wishy-washy ways as any sort of surprise, because that seems to me to be his normal mode of operating, and I had been predicting that a few times this week already. However, Ox’s emotional statement today….. is a surprising twist and feels like the last week may potentially become an interesting misdirection…. IF the arc continues into next week with Tiffany and Ox continuing to communicate.
However, WILL THE ARC CONTINUE or will this be Greg and Karen’s common “ambiguous teasing” where things basically get dropped, with limited movement of the character(s)?
I do not really know what to predict. It would be quite interesting to see Ox and Tiffany further interact, indeed. Tiffany might realize some things about herself if she had this conversation with Ox.
Tiff has never had a boyfriend much less a long term one. She thinks of relationships as musical chairs. If Kip really wanted her he would have made it happen a long time ago. Tiff needs to get over herself as the perfect solution to Kip’s needs.
Oh god no! This ship will not sail. Ox is ugly as sin, utterly boring, and has nothing in common with Tiff. And the last one is the most important. They’ve never even had a decent conversation. Gunther was a better match for Tiffany. Piro was a better match. Even Kip was better. Hell, TJ is a better match and I’m 98% sure he’s written as gay. Please, PLEASE, just STOP with the Ox + Tiffany
You tell her, Ox. I personally don’t think Ox and Tiffany should date because he is way too good for her. She will never truly appreciate him. She simply doesn’t have that kind of insight.
God Bless Ox. He’s completely oblivious to anything thats going on around him, yet he strides on, patient, courageous, and typically triumphant! Simple maybe, yet strong in heart and spirit. We all need someone like Ox in our lives. They are the ones that keep us grounded in reality.
when i was Tiffany’s age I was just as self-centered as she when it came to seeing what was out there. A lovely young man wanted to date me. I turned him down because he was shorter than I. That he was smart, kind, interesting etc didn’t make a difference to me. I picked someone taller and better looking by teenage standards. Tiff will do the same.
Why is everyone so invested in a bunch of 19-year-olds finding True Love?? At this age their love lives are a lot more like Kip and Stef – hot makeout sessions, arguing, on-again/off-again dating. They don’t HAVE to find their life partner before they’ve even graduated from college.
We really haven’t seen a lot of Ox’s character aside from him being generally a nice guy. I don’t see them as a couple. I’ve known couples like Kip and Stefani who have been together for so long the reasons for being together no longer apply or Kip is waking up to how she really is towards him and other people. I think the wake up happened when she wasn’t intending on paying Dez back for the loan for Cheer Camp, then how she talks down to Tiff and she bulldozes the other roommates. He already said he didn’t see her as marriage material and I love Tiff, but she needs more growing up too. Maybe an internship with her dad in Japan about starting a business might help.
beb01 about 2 months ago
Well, this was a midweek misdirection play I did not see coming.
Next week can we have the Brat? I’m tired of this show.
redhawk1138 about 2 months ago
aww Ox, sorry buddy but she’ll never see you, she cant see past her own Vanity, Tiff thought Kip would be good cause he looks good, aka “Arm Candy” but one can see he clearly isnt that bright or have a spine
Tenax about 2 months ago
Awww ❤️❤️
Pointspread about 2 months ago
Say it loud Ox!
9thCapricorn about 2 months ago
What a letdown after all the building up….pooofffff. Nothing changed. Luanniverse is intact.
Azul0858 about 2 months ago
Not this again! Despite the weight gain, Tiffany is still pretty, with a curvy figure. Ox is stubble-bald, paunchy and boring. He likes Tiffany because she’s pretty, and it probably doesn’t hurt that she’s rich and was a cheerleader when they were in high school. People would be impressed if Ox could date Tiffany, but they’d be shocked if she settled for him.
comic reader 22 about 2 months ago
Wow. Greg is drawing Tiffany really big! She’s as wide as Ox.
Willow Mt Lyon about 2 months ago
I don’t think Tiffany is going to catch onto Ox’s comment. I expected Kip to confront Stef instead of giving in and letting her back into his life.
Rhetorical_Question about 2 months ago
Kip Lee is not wealthy like Oxford. Kip is a potential NFL player?
Rhetorical_Question about 2 months ago
Tiffany judges potential boyfriends based on their looks. She has taken a pass on Leslie Knox, TJ, Gunther and Ox.
ProclaimLiberty about 2 months ago
We seem to have missed some important interaction that I would have liked to see. But Stef’s intrusion and usurpation of a private conversation seems to have been rewarded. Kip’s brief opportunity to pursue his independence and open his eyes to new opportunities has been thwarted. He has, apparently, returned to his imprisonment under Stef’s emotional tyranny. But who knows? In another week, he might again see the same behavior that induced him to initiate the break last October 30-31. Maybe he needs repeated instances to get it through his thick skull that this is a toxic relationship that has dulled his senses. Meanwhile, G&K are teasing the readers with Ox’s longstanding crush on Tiff. But, really, there’s no relational impetus to kick him out of the “friend zone” into a romantic running field.
snsurone76 about 2 months ago
She’ll be better—in the sack maybe, but not as a human!
Rhetorical_Question about 2 months ago
I wonder who call Stefani Bird?
SeaSnork about 2 months ago
Go for it, Ox! Team Ox here.
Rhetorical_Question about 2 months ago
Hair plugs for Oxford?
Rhetorical_Question about 2 months ago
Is Oxford still working Tiffany’s shift?
lvlax about 2 months ago
Awww… No pie in Stef’s face?? What a missed opportunity! Kip is a joke.. no spine at all!
Sorry Ox. She’s oblivious to your true feelings for her. Maybe someday…
Rhetorical_Question about 2 months ago
Oxford has never visited Gunther?
kenhense about 2 months ago
Well neither Tiffany nor Ox are perfect. But Ox’s reply was funny.
GirlGeek Premium Member about 2 months ago
Ox, your crush is showing
Mordock999 Premium Member about 2 months ago
Say it LOUDER, Ox.
Tiff didn’t hear you.
That Blond hair is covering her ears and those “rose colored glasses” are ruining her “perspective.”
Looks like I was wrong about Kip.
He IS a Dolt. ;-)
nightflight about 2 months ago
Thank you, Ox. That’s the best line I’ve seen in weeks.
BlitzMcD about 2 months ago
Poor Ox. Based loosely on the Marmaduke “Moose” Mason character from Archie Comics. But Moose at least had Midge. Ox only has his dreams.
nightflight about 2 months ago
Was it Yogi Berra who said, “the game isn’t over until the fat lady sings”? Well, Tiff, warm up those vocal cords because ……….you’re on.
French Persons' Savvy Selection of Screaming Elly Premium Member about 2 months ago
Welcome to Simpville…
Argythree about 2 months ago
Ox’s words of wisdom are falling on deaf ears…
Wilkins068 about 2 months ago
Dang, Ox, you nailed that one down pretty good. it’ll prolly rattle around in th airspace in Tiff’s head a while an drop off in to oblivion
[Unnamed Reader - 74419e] about 2 months ago
Another disappointment. Clearly, G&K can’t write an arc with a logical outcome. There is a contrived conflict with no real character development or resolution. Let’s get rid of Stef and Kip.
Rhetorical_Question about 2 months ago
Who left? Bradley DeGroot and Toni? Mrs Horner? TJ?
OneTime59 about 2 months ago
A hint from Ox that will not register with Tiffany.
Miles VanDelay about 2 months ago
Anticlimactic.
Guybrush Threepwood about 2 months ago
No, Ox. You’re better off without her.
leighabc123 about 2 months ago
Tiffany should have left last Friday! She doesn’t need a gullible man like Kip.
MS72 about 2 months ago
“turn around bright eyes“
Bernedoodle about 2 months ago
Ox cracks a funny! I like his smile.
Khpg about 2 months ago
Just NO to all of this. These arcs are exhausting lol. How many times do we have to see Kip get a moment of sanity then poof. Not to mention the whole Tiff, Ox thing. Ox is a great guy but Ox’s crush on Tiff isn’t comparable to Tiff and Kip. All these arcs go nowhere lately. We need some excitement with follow through!
CountOlaf2.0 Premium Member about 2 months ago
Ewooooooo… Ox just hit on Tuff❤️Tiff!!! ❤️❤️❤️ it!! Wait until she finds out why he’s really called ox, boy howdy. ; ). Dilly! Dilly!
luann1212 about 2 months ago
I predicted, at my peril, but I was 99% sure, that Kip and Steph were destined to get back together, they are drawn almost co-dependent. But the Ox(Ford) angle is a pleasant misdirection. I think it would be a great epiphany for Tiffany, and joy to Ox, good for both, but she has to grow, and he needs to make his feelings clear. By the way, too many here focus their opinions about a potential relstionship between a rich Tiff, a bit too chubby for them, who definitely, nevertheless, would not want a “fat” boring slub like Ox. Well, then they aren’t carefully understanding the true back story of Ox. “His” dad is also an successful attorney, who apparently is actually living with and fathering his family in Luannverse and not 8k miles away, in Japan; he is just shy, although panel 3 may presage a change. I hope so. We may see next week.
Northstar_Pendragon about 2 months ago
Reading through the comments, its obvious that the readers are polarized into two camps — those who think it would be just great if Tiff and Ox ended up together, and those of us who would be horrified which includes me. But I think that today’s development is another tease and misdirection. For years, Greg has been getting his mileage from the strip by having most characters forever trying but never making it. Brad and Toni are the only exceptions. I keep reading because I like some of the characters and the humor, but freely admit that I’ve been tired of all the cynicism for several years.
BJShipley1 about 2 months ago
Calling it now: this is the end of this arc. We won’t see these two on Monday, but rather we’ll see a different character. The status quo remains firmly in place.
kappy.mrnustik Premium Member about 2 months ago
Are there ANY happy single couples besides Toni and Brad in this strip? We haven’t had even a happy pause, much less a happy ending since Bets and Gun first got together. GETTING TIRED HERE!
ctolson about 2 months ago
Bingo Ox! But it will fly right over Tiff’s head.
Aladar30 Premium Member about 2 months ago
Tiffany has every right to be upset, but it’s a good thing this happened before she and Kip had gotten any further. She should just accept that Kip is a dumb guy who will never be free of Stef. I feel bad for Ox, but Tiffany has never shown signs of thinking of him as more than a friend.
baskate_2000 about 2 months ago
Stefani must be really good in …. somewhere.
morningglory73 Premium Member about 2 months ago
It’s up to the artists to make Ox more handsome. It wouldn’t take much for Tiff to see him in a new light. Take a good look at Ox, Tiff.
DawnQuinn1 about 2 months ago
The way this arc ended is NOT what the readers want, and may put them off enough to read another comic instead.
Lord Hearteater about 2 months ago
Well played, Evans. We’ve been needing a revisiting of Ox-wants-Tiff. Look at the calendar. We’ve got ourselves a Valentine’s Day arc coming to your screen (or printed comics page) at full speed.
tcayer about 2 months ago
Relax Tiff. Once Kip gets ‘it’ out of his system, he’ll see she hasn’t changed.
jtw1 about 2 months ago
Ox is Lennie Small, and Tiffany is like a rabbit to him… “I will squeeze her and pet her”…
dblbaraje about 2 months ago
Ox’s statement is not funny. Unrequited love is heart breaking. Life is cruel sometime. Ox deserves better
Ellis97 about 2 months ago
Maybe Tiffany just isn’t for you, Ox. She is way too oblivious
rlfekete1 Premium Member about 2 months ago
Ox deserves better.
kaystari Premium Member about 2 months ago
I guess we can’t hope for the Kip/Tiff pairing. Then we lose the drama. Nor the Ox/Tiff pairing. Nor the Bernice/Nil, nor the Luann/…um, the muscelhead guy that we met w Nil.I don’t think Tiff has changed as much as we think. Yes, she’s not as pre-occupied, not as snarky…no, she’s is, not AS petty, or mean, but she is still focused on beauty, and what she wants. But, ti’s the age. I was like that too then, still am to some degree at 53. But I recognize it and try to fight it. Jesus helps me, I recognize my weakness and my need for outside help only He can give.
Ontman about 2 months ago
This has become a predictable soap opera.
BJDucer about 2 months ago
Ox, you may not realize this now, but you can do better….
Cincoflex about 2 months ago
Tiff is looking for love in all the wrong places . . .
KEA about 2 months ago
from 32 years of teaching and observing student behavior I can say with some authority people make some very poor choices when it comes to intimate relationships
Call me Ishmael about 2 months ago
Sob ! So sad that she can’t see his beautiful soul…sniff…
lexit07072017 about 2 months ago
Tiffany and Ox need a trip to The Pagoda of Peace.
comic reader 22 about 2 months ago
I’m glad Tiffany finally got the message, which is surprising because she is so dam dense. She was really out of line plotting and scheming to break up Kip and Stef. That she still thinks she was right is a perfect example of how self-centered she is. Maybe if she started paying attention and lost a few pounds her head wouldn’t be so fat (literally). And Ox – blech! no! Greg needs to do a makeover on that character.
RSH about 2 months ago
Tiff is frustrated by Kip in the same way that Ox is with Tiff. Both are in the “friend zone” of the person they desire for boyfriend or girlfriend. Tiff doesn’t get it any more than Ox.
cooterrichards about 2 months ago
He’ll transform just like Brad did. Go back and look at earlier versions of Brad. He even grew more hair! :-0
Lord King Wazmo Premium Member about 2 months ago
“But…you’re fat.”
MJ Weber Premium Member about 2 months ago
Correct Ox, just say it a little louder and more often.
Twelve Badgers in a Suit Premium Member about 2 months ago
Oh. Huh. I also didn’t realize Ox felt that way.
Pipe Tobacco Premium Member about 2 months ago
I do not view Kip’s wishy-washy ways as any sort of surprise, because that seems to me to be his normal mode of operating, and I had been predicting that a few times this week already. However, Ox’s emotional statement today….. is a surprising twist and feels like the last week may potentially become an interesting misdirection…. IF the arc continues into next week with Tiffany and Ox continuing to communicate.
However, WILL THE ARC CONTINUE or will this be Greg and Karen’s common “ambiguous teasing” where things basically get dropped, with limited movement of the character(s)?
I do not really know what to predict. It would be quite interesting to see Ox and Tiffany further interact, indeed. Tiffany might realize some things about herself if she had this conversation with Ox.
What do other folks think?
EMGULS79 about 2 months ago
Ox, be glad Tiff didn’t hear you. You’re better off without her. So is ANY man.
DaBump Premium Member about 2 months ago
Awwwww.
Joe1962 about 2 months ago
Ox great comeback. Tiffany, Kip is a man who thinks of his ego being pump up by Stef.
RSH about 2 months ago
Tiff has never had a boyfriend much less a long term one. She thinks of relationships as musical chairs. If Kip really wanted her he would have made it happen a long time ago. Tiff needs to get over herself as the perfect solution to Kip’s needs.
ellisc about 2 months ago
Tiff can do waaaayyy better than Ox!
billdaviswords about 2 months ago
Ooooh…. interesting “turn” of events. Maybe we’re headed for a Tiffany/Ox arc, or for more of insufferable Stef (bleah).
billdaviswords about 2 months ago
At least Stef is “admitting” she needed to change, but…
WoT_Hog Premium Member about 2 months ago
Alright OXXXX!!!!! Goooo boy!!! <3
Decius Premium Member about 2 months ago
Oh god no! This ship will not sail. Ox is ugly as sin, utterly boring, and has nothing in common with Tiff. And the last one is the most important. They’ve never even had a decent conversation. Gunther was a better match for Tiffany. Piro was a better match. Even Kip was better. Hell, TJ is a better match and I’m 98% sure he’s written as gay. Please, PLEASE, just STOP with the Ox + Tiffany
eladee AKA Wally about 2 months ago
You tell her, Ox. I personally don’t think Ox and Tiffany should date because he is way too good for her. She will never truly appreciate him. She simply doesn’t have that kind of insight.
mindjob about 2 months ago
Ox isn’t good looking enough, but with the right surgery anything’s possible
RonMcCalip about 2 months ago
God Bless Ox. He’s completely oblivious to anything thats going on around him, yet he strides on, patient, courageous, and typically triumphant! Simple maybe, yet strong in heart and spirit. We all need someone like Ox in our lives. They are the ones that keep us grounded in reality.
MuddyUSA Premium Member about 2 months ago
Attaboy….simple as that………
htieiri about 2 months ago
No offense to Ox cause’ he’s a nice guy, but I just can’t picture him with Tiffany. And she’s not interested in him in a romantic way.
htieiri about 2 months ago
Kip has no back bone. Tiffany deserves better, someone who can see “the writing on the wall”.
txmystic about 2 months ago
Ox might be the perfect person for Tiff because he is so kind and patient, but Tiff is far from the perfect person for Ox…
lnrokr55 about 2 months ago
You got that right Ox, never underestimate the world of boring pretty people ! ;-)
Susan123 about 2 months ago
Kip is so whipped.
oakie9531 about 2 months ago
told ya
Fedup Bear about 2 months ago
Just a personal thought…Thinking of oneself as perfect, is rather arrogant
GaryCooper about 2 months ago
Oh, no. Sweet Ox seems to be setting himself up for heartbreak.
rmcnutt383 about 2 months ago
Stefani is one of the most unlikeable comic characters I have ever come across.
forestkat2015 about 2 months ago
when i was Tiffany’s age I was just as self-centered as she when it came to seeing what was out there. A lovely young man wanted to date me. I turned him down because he was shorter than I. That he was smart, kind, interesting etc didn’t make a difference to me. I picked someone taller and better looking by teenage standards. Tiff will do the same.
princesshickory Premium Member about 2 months ago
Poor Ox…I don’t think Tiffany will ever see him as boyfriend material, which is a shame.
fuzzbucket Premium Member about 2 months ago
Ox is facing the wrong way.
reedkomicks Premium Member about 2 months ago
She is just not into him. There has to be an attraction for this to work.
HodgeElmwood about 2 months ago
Why is everyone so invested in a bunch of 19-year-olds finding True Love?? At this age their love lives are a lot more like Kip and Stef – hot makeout sessions, arguing, on-again/off-again dating. They don’t HAVE to find their life partner before they’ve even graduated from college.
Otis Rufus Driftwood about 2 months ago
If that’s how they’re going to end this, I say no more of Kip and Stef. We need this crap as much as Tiffany does.
David Huie Green LikeNobody'sEverSeen about 2 months ago
Right and good point.
Oxford is the best.
mrsdonaldson about 2 months ago
Yay, Ox! I hope she doesn’t break your heart.
Black76Manta about 2 months ago
KIP is a fool, he will never learn that that airhead is no good for him and that she will never change.
prrdh about 2 months ago
Beautiful.
rc_stone_1 about 2 months ago
Tiffany doesn’t deserve Ox. Ox was a Division One prospect until he hurt his knee.
Demmiaa about 2 months ago
UNLESS he is stellar inside!! And maybe it comes out later… I’ve seen it happen!
nubianaries81 about 2 months ago
We really haven’t seen a lot of Ox’s character aside from him being generally a nice guy. I don’t see them as a couple. I’ve known couples like Kip and Stefani who have been together for so long the reasons for being together no longer apply or Kip is waking up to how she really is towards him and other people. I think the wake up happened when she wasn’t intending on paying Dez back for the loan for Cheer Camp, then how she talks down to Tiff and she bulldozes the other roommates. He already said he didn’t see her as marriage material and I love Tiff, but she needs more growing up too. Maybe an internship with her dad in Japan about starting a business might help.
Scott S about 2 months ago
What if Aaron Hill returns, but he’s gained about 50 lbs & male pattern baldness has made manifest.
Doctor Go about 2 months ago
Sounds like elections…